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afk phone
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Posted - 2016.08.18 15:57:01 -
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You were ganked. If the guy follows you all over Eve and keeps ganking you - that series of actions would constitute griefing.
Report back to us if there is a continued string of ganking by this same pilot. After several occurrences the griefing will become evident.
A review of your kb https://zkillboard.com/character/696775183/ indicates you were in a 0.5 system, not a 0.8. I understand you may be upset or frustrated by you ship loss, but misrepresenting the facts does not help you case. The review also indicates that you were ganked by different pilots over a long period of time and as you implied - the distant past ganks occurred in low sec, so they are not even ganks based on the mechanics of low sec.
I also noticed that you opted for the no tank at all option when fitting your ship. That may or may not have been part of what drew the gankers attention. I recommend you train into a Skiff mining barge, tank it to an acceptable level and enjoy the game.
I had a guy in corp that would routinely lose barges as he continually mostly afk mined in wh space. They guy mined in blank clones and t1 barges. He came out way ahead and figured in the losses as part of the game. He never cared or complained. For him the empty clone and no tank cheapo barge was the way to go.
You seem to be adverse to losing a ship, so I recommend a second time to look into the Skiff as it's a well tanked and serviceable vessel. There are even a few ganker whine threads that it is too tough and needs to have its tank reduced. It sounds like the right ship for you.
Finally, playing Eve casually and being good at Eve are 2 vastly different things. My casual miner friend didn't care about losses or about being good at eve. He just enjoyed being on comms with the guys and casual mining. You seem to want to be good at Eve and also avoid losses. To get you on your way - google 'skiff' and read up on it. If you think it's what you need - load up that training que and get to it!
Finally finally - Eve isn't for everyone. I'm not telling you to gtfo, but over time I have come to terms that the real in game consequences aren't for everyone. If you can't deal with losses and the darker side of Eve game play, there are plenty of games out there that don't have these darker play style options in them. |
afk phone
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2016.08.18 16:03:05 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:No..... griefing is committing an act for the sole purpose of causing grief.
Ganking is simply attacking someone who wasn't prepared for it.
Maybe you should learn your stuff..
For reference, this could be considered both ganking AND griefing, since the two are in no way exclusive.
Jeez, and I thought Elite players were bad at understanding simple concepts like this...
I truly doubt the guy ganked you for the sole purpose of causing YOU grief. If I convo'd him I would wager his first question would be: 'Who?' as he probably has no idea who you are. In Eve griefing is fairly well defined. What you have portrayed doesn't fit the EULA definition of griefing. Just because you feel aggrieved does not mean you were griefed. It's defined in the EULA, read it and decide if you can live with it during your allotted game play time on this earth.
I had a Master Chief in the Navy once tell me "Son, you don't have to agree with the rules, you just have to live by them." It helped me at the time (somewhat), perhaps it will help you (somewhat) now. |
afk phone
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2016.08.18 16:57:21 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:Hmm, at least (most) of the last few responses have been reasonable with legitimate suggestions to consider.
(Aside from a couple of silly childish attempts at one line retorts from a couple of little kids).
So I appreciate the suggestions made.
It's possible I could have misremembered the sec as stated and that it was indeed 0.5 rather than 0.8.
That said, though, I would still expect even 0.5 to have much better protection than it appears to.
As I mentioned, I've only been back a few days after an almost 10 year hiatus from the game, so not familiar with Mining vessels being "tanks". New concept to me.
I'll also look up what a "Skiff" is, as I don't know that either.
Thanks at least to the couple of you who took the effort and maturity to prompt me to try and figure out how to get past this in a sensible way. That's appreciated.
I'm always grateful for reasoned and considerate advice when it comes.
"That said, though, I would still expect even 0.5 to have much better protection than it appears to."
CONCORD doesn't provide protection. CONCORD provides consequences. They suicide gank you and CONCORD destroys the ship they are flying. They show up after the gankers have destroyed you ship in most cases. Those that gank miners have a clear understanding of CONCORD response times and how much damage they have to bring to pop you before CONCORD finishes them off.
It's a pretty much just a math problem to the ganker. (like I said, the guy probably has no idea as to the who/what/where/when specifics of ganking you. You're barge was just a math problem that he solved)
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afk phone
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2016.08.18 18:20:43 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Careful OP Gankers have very fragile ego's esp codies. Challenge their philosophy or methods and they meltdown the worst. They even may send you RL threats in the mail. 
You don't need to be careful. You can always come wh with my corp. Codies don't go to wh. Speak your mind, that's what forums are for. If they hound you for your forum words - that would be griefing. |
afk phone
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2016.08.18 18:46:57 -
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wh = worm hole system
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